Requested by woodsofthegreyelf

Requested by woodsofthegreyelf

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pica-ae asked: First off: love your blog! Then I have a question: I see you are using Pilot Parallel Pens and I purchased some myself. But after trying them out, they bleed terribly on all my papers. What kind of paper do you use/would you recommend using?

pica-learns-calligraphy:

bigdamncalligraphy:

Aw, thanks pica-ae :)

Welcome to the side hobby with calligraphy :P  It’s not the cheapest but Parchment paper designed for calligraphy is the most guaranteed paper.  Every big-box craft store will have a few pads of it - Michael’s, Jo Anne’s, Hobby Lobby.  If you can locate their tiny calligraphy section, it will always be on the bottom shelf.

Now for the complicated answers :D

On the higher side of price per page, Levenger, Clairfontaine, and Rhodia papers are fantastic for calligraphy.  Any paper designed for fountain pen ink tends to do well with calligraphy.

Tracing Paper and some vellums and onionskin papers can work as well, with an interesting effect.  However sometimes the ink is so wet it wrinkles the page, so that’s another item to take into consideration: whether or not you want that effect.

Fabriano notebooks, carried by Michael’s and I’m not sure where else, are also a good option.  I really enjoy their paper. Canson Marker Paper and Strathmore Layout Bond are good options that most art stores carry as well.  

Strathmore Windpower Sketch and Canson’s sketchbooks (particularly their Art Book series) are good but sometimes inconsistent.  I’ll generally get good results with them, although you’ll have runs of pages with some feathering.  Not outright bleeding, but enough feathering to be annoying.

Do Nots: Do not use RENDR.  Do not use Moleskine.  They’re utter shit for calligraphy.  The papers have their purposes, but NOT here.

All that said, your best price per page paper is… inkjet paper.  Except the quantity you have to buy it in :P  Staples’ Bright White Inkjet Paper Item 733332 I’ve had good luck with.  Low bleed, low feather, photographs well.  However… know that any reamed copy or inkjet paper can be inconsistent.  I got a good ream that’s treated me well, but your mileage may vary.  Bond writing paper tends to work well for calligraphy, and while a bit more per ream can be worth it.  Just don’t use it in your printer except for the occasional resume.  High-gloss inkjet photopapers are also pretty good, but rather difficult to photograph.  Lots of moving my lamp around to get the least glare.

All of that said… My favorite paper at the moment?  a couple of reams left over from a marketing project at work :P  Neenah Classic Linen Writing Paper 05211 in Antique Gray.  Staples used to have it… by the case :P

At some point I’ll get around to seeing if contemporary Neenah papers are as good (these reams are about 6, 7 years old.)

I totally asked you with my wrong account … ANYWAY! Thank so much for the detailed answer!

I will make sure to check them out where I can (living in Germany, which I forgot to mention, I don’t have those stores, but I will be in the US in two weeks, so that’s not a problem).

I have been using moleskines with a fountain pen I got, and it worked okay. I found it nice to have it in a sketchbook and be able to see progress on skipping through, but as you rightfully said, it is terrible for pilot parallel pens …

Before I asked you, I was doing a little research and realized that marker paper might be a good idea. I ordered on amazon (Schoellershammer don’t go the company website, it’s terrible) and it arrived today and my first test provided no bleed, just a little wrinkly paper. Which evens out after a few minutes already.

Aaaand last but not least gain, thank you!

You’re very welcome. :)  Definitely when you’re on this side of the pond then if you can make it to a Michael’s grab some of the Fabriano, since they come in the same sizes as the Moleskines you’re already working with, and are much cheaper than Moleskine.  

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ideolgyofamadman asked: Hello, just wanted to let you know I like your calligraphy. I was also wondering what kind of pens, paper, inks and those sort of things you use or might recommend. Again, your blog rocks!

Thanks ideolgyofamadman :)

As to paper, I put together a long-winded bit on that the other day you might want to check out.

Pens… My workhorses remain Pilot’s Parallels, supplemented by the occasional Pilot Plumix, Italic Nib on a Lamy Safari, and a couple Manuscript pens.  The manuscript tends to not create the best seal around the cartridge I’ve found, so it’s not one for traveling at all.  Pilot and Lamy pens are robust enough to be part of your EDC if you choose, although I haven’t attempted to fly with any of them yet.

Ink:  Unless you’re using dip pens, steer clear of “calligraphy” ink and go for fountain pen ink.  LIquitex’ Acrylic Ink works pretty well in the parallels, although I haven’t tried the couple bottles I’ve got in my Lamy or the Plumix.  Fountain-wise, Private Reserve inks and Noodler’s  inks (with the exception of Baystate Blue) work consistently well.  Really nothing sold by Goulet is bad from the samples I’ve tried, although I have found De Atraemenis to be more prone to feathering overall on pages that Noodler’s trucks through.

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pica-ae asked: First off: love your blog! Then I have a question: I see you are using Pilot Parallel Pens and I purchased some myself. But after trying them out, they bleed terribly on all my papers. What kind of paper do you use/would you recommend using?

Aw, thanks pica-ae :)

Welcome to the side hobby with calligraphy :P  It’s not the cheapest but Parchment paper designed for calligraphy is the most guaranteed paper.  Every big-box craft store will have a few pads of it - Michael’s, Jo Anne’s, Hobby Lobby.  If you can locate their tiny calligraphy section, it will always be on the bottom shelf.

Now for the complicated answers :D

On the higher side of price per page, Levenger, Clairfontaine, and Rhodia papers are fantastic for calligraphy.  Any paper designed for fountain pen ink tends to do well with calligraphy.

Tracing Paper and some vellums and onionskin papers can work as well, with an interesting effect.  However sometimes the ink is so wet it wrinkles the page, so that’s another item to take into consideration: whether or not you want that effect.

Fabriano notebooks, carried by Michael’s and I’m not sure where else, are also a good option.  I really enjoy their paper. Canson Marker Paper and Strathmore Layout Bond are good options that most art stores carry as well.  

Strathmore Windpower Sketch and Canson’s sketchbooks (particularly their Art Book series) are good but sometimes inconsistent.  I’ll generally get good results with them, although you’ll have runs of pages with some feathering.  Not outright bleeding, but enough feathering to be annoying.

Do Nots: Do not use RENDR.  Do not use Moleskine.  They’re utter shit for calligraphy.  The papers have their purposes, but NOT here.

All that said, your best price per page paper is… inkjet paper.  Except the quantity you have to buy it in :P  Staples’ Bright White Inkjet Paper Item 733332 I’ve had good luck with.  Low bleed, low feather, photographs well.  However… know that any reamed copy or inkjet paper can be inconsistent.  I got a good ream that’s treated me well, but your mileage may vary.  Bond writing paper tends to work well for calligraphy, and while a bit more per ream can be worth it.  Just don’t use it in your printer except for the occasional resume.  High-gloss inkjet photopapers are also pretty good, but rather difficult to photograph.  Lots of moving my lamp around to get the least glare.

All of that said… My favorite paper at the moment?  a couple of reams left over from a marketing project at work :P  Neenah Classic Linen Writing Paper 05211 in Antique Gray.  Staples used to have it… by the case :P

At some point I’ll get around to seeing if contemporary Neenah papers are as good (these reams are about 6, 7 years old.)